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Milwaukee Talks: Radio host James T. Harris
James T. Harris would reach and touch Favre.
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Published May 1, 2008 at 5:27 a.m.
Tags: james t. harris, wtmj, national conversation, talk radio, illumination, 620am


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OMC: Please react to these five names: Brett Favre.

JH: Man. Love Brett Favre. I love Brett Favre. I got in trouble on the radio for saying that I love Brett Favre so much that he could ask me to hold his right butt cheek and I would.

"Is this the right pressure, Mr. Favre, cuz I'll do it. I'll hold it." Just like that. You know, I became a huge Packer fan ... I grew up in the Bears -- my father was not from here, he was a Bears fan, and he was actually a fan of anybody that was playing the Packers. So, I grew up not appreciating the whole Packer legacy.

I jumped on the bandwagon with Don Majikowski. I remember that year -- we almost made it to the playoffs -- one night football, they were interviewing Don Majikowski and they were sittin' on the bubble, hopin' to get in, and then he got hurt the next year and Brett Favre came in. I'm tellin' you Jeff ... I probably only missed two or three games out of his whole career. And my boy, who's 14 years old, we have watched ... my eldest is 14, and my youngest is 9. The 14-year-old watched every game for except maybe three of Brett Favre playing football. So when he retired, my god!

When he retired, I drove to the boy's school! Pulled him out of class to tell him Brett Favre retired -- it' crazy. I love watching him play, but what I really love though, is the fact that he showed up to work every day he was playin'. He played with passion, and he strove to be excellent ... and in the end, the reason why he quit was because he knew he couldn't do that anymore. He could not put in what it takes to be the very best he could be. I respect that. I think that's a lesson for all of society to embrace -- to really put all you have into what you do, and if you can't it's time to look elsewhere.

As a matter of fact, that's one of the reasons why I stopped teaching. I had a teacher say to me, "You know, I always thought that by this point in my career I'd have wrote the great American novel. I thought I would be living a different life, but here I am teaching, still, after 25 years, with a big family. I woke up one day and said, 'This is my life. That's all you'll get.'" That scared me. If you're not playing a big enough game in life, you will screw up the game you're playing just to make life interesting. And so, that's why I love Brett Favre. He gave it his all, and instead of screwin' it up, he's moving on to something else now.

OMC: Ald. McGee?

JH: Come on, man. Come on. I'll say this: when the whole controversy broke, and everyone was breakin' bad on Ald. McGee, including myself, on my blog, his brother responded. And first it was very contentious. He was hurling stuff at me, you know, did the usual ... Uncle Tom and all this kind of stuff ... but I was just kind of firing back, not in a disrespectful way, because you know, it's family. But we ended up forging a friendship out of that. We still e-mail with each other. And because of that, it's forced me to sort of look at Ald. McGee in a different light.

Having said that, he's still a thug and a criminal who will never see the light of day, and I think it's an embarrassment to the city that he's still in a position where he's winning elections from behind bars. But it also speaks to just what that section of the section of that city thinks of itself; that it doesn't deserve better. That's what I have to say about that.

OMC: President Bush?

JH: I will never, ever, get over the fact that President Bush's first nomination to the Supreme Court was Harriet Miers. What? Dude! What was that? ... and that's when I lost faith. This man isn't real. This man is putting loyalty over ideology.

Since that, you know ... the budget blown ... having said all that, I think that he's a decent enough guy, and I believe that he, as far as the war, is where I agree with him. Mistakes are made, but mistakes are made. We held him on too high of a level. Mistakes are made all the time during war.

We've got to get back to some basic questions that people want to forget, you know, that we were discussing on the eve of or post Sept. 11 -- things after Sept. 11. I think that in the end, and stability grows in the Middle East, he will go down in history as the Abraham Lincoln of the Middle East. People get mad when they hear me say that, but think about it! He literally changed the dynamics. This war, and supporting Iraq, if a state comes out of this in a democratic nature, he's done an incredible thing that people said could never be done, so I'll give him that.

But domestically, he was a disappointment. There were huge, huge opportunities that were lost. Things that were promised ... usually happens. And what President Bush has done for me is really help me to embrace, I believe, "Psalm 145: Do not put your trust in politicians and mortal man who cannot save when your spirit departs to return to the ground. On that day all of their plans come to nothing." Thank you. Thank you President Bush.

OMC: Hillary Clinton?

JH: Mmm-mmm-mmm. Lord have mercy. Hillary Clinton, I think, I think ... hey, did you hear today, what's his name, Mayor of Detroit? Kilpatrick. Kwame Kilpatrick. You know, all these charges came down, you know. The flirting and the taxes and the affairs. His wife wasn't standing by his side in the baby blue dress suit, like the other wives. Usually, if you're a woman, you put on a suit and you kind of stare at him with a little bit of anger. The guy wears a dark suit with the red -- "That didn't take place!" And every time something happens like with (New York) Gov. Spitzer and that kind of stuff, it takes me back to what Hillary allowed Bill to do and why.

And this run is the payback. I can't get past that, you know. Character counts. Do not be deceived, bad company corrupts good character. And when I think about Hillary or Bill, I come back to that. And the people who were in her inner circle who are now dropping bad on her -- governor of Arizona -- Richardson. The people who were supposed to be loyal, the people who they've been through this together with now attack her and this woman's character. I don't believe that she has the experience to be the President of the United States. What has she done? So the only reason why she's in the position is because she's married to Bill -- if her last name wasn't Clinton, she wouldn't be in this place, which speaks badly -- poorly -- for democrats.

OMC: Barack Obama.

JH: The "Chocolate Jesus!" Now, I'm under a lot of pressure. People didn't like the "Chocolate Jesus" name. Did you ever see the movie "Coming to America" with Eddie Murphy and they had the scene with the band, "Sexual Chocolate"? Well, I decided to change Barack's name from "Chocolate Jesus" to "Secular Chocolate." He's now "Secular Chocolate." That's not playing as well, but people are leaving me alone.

Um, Barack Obama. The man is handsome -- striking. Striking figure. He is articulate when the teleprompter is rolling, he's fantastic. Lovely family. In a lot of ways, Jeff, he's like me. However, ideology is vapid. He, in experience, I mean really, honestly. Geraldine Ferraro was correct. If this man were not African-American, in the truest sense of the word, would he be where he is?

I think that as exciting as it is to have someone black on the precipice of something as important as this is really cool, but when we listen to what he has to say, when we listen to how he conducts his life, again I come back to the character issue. The whole thing that just blew up with this pastor, I think is, and should be, seriously considered. I wouldn't sit in the church for 20 years listening to that kind of stuff. I mean, when I was 17 years old, I left the church of my youth, because the pastor was on the pulpit talking about white people. That's not how I live. That's not how I see the world. That's not how I want to live.

So how can you be talking about conclusion and racial harmony, peace and reconciliation? How can you be talking about reconciliation among the races, when you're sitting at church on Sundays listening to this? The two don't work, and I believe the fact that our society has moved so far away from church, religion and God, that they think that the two do, but they do not.

And I think Michelle Obama's comments about "This is the first time I can be proud of my country." is all tied into the spirit of Pastor Jeremiah Wright's sermons. The whole ideal of when Barack Obama has been talking about for the last week, about grandma, you know, and the typical white person, plays into the spirit of Jeremiah Wright's sermons, so I've got a problem with that.

Basically, two problems with Barack Obama: number one, he is liberal to the point almost of fascism, and number two, that fascism is born out of his religious, philosophical world views, which is rooted in the teachings of Jeremiah Wright, former pastor of the United Church of Christ in Chicago. Someone said last week, "Is James T. Harris the only black man in America that won't vote for Barack Obama?" Yes! Let me say that here. Yes!

OMC: Well, I didn't have John McCain on the list, but I'll add him in.

JH: I cannot get past McCain / Feingold. I cannot get past the fact that this is the man who on numerous occasions, talked about leaving the Republican Party. Who picked up the phone and called the Democrats and talked about what it would take to negotiate a deal to leave the Republican Party to give them the majority. I think (Vermont Sen. James) Jeffords jumped ship before he did.

I cannot get over the fact that this is the man who reached across the aisle shaking hands with Kennedy. He's not a conservative. Now, maybe that is the direction that the Republican Party is going, but that's not the direction that I'm going in. I'll be the lone person, who -- I'm catching it from one side because I'm not voting for Barack Obama, and I'm catching it from the other side because I'm not voting for John McCain.

So, I guess that makes me an independent thinker. Not independent voter. It's strange that I do believe that John McCain will win this thing just because the way the politics of ideology is playing out on the left -- between the female vote and the black vote, but I can't say that I'm thrilled about that because I think that John McCain -- you hear people say, "Well, if Hillary doesn't win, I'm voting for John McCain" or "If Barack doesn't win I'm voting for McCain."

And what does that say for McCain? And what does that say for Republicans that allowed this to happen? Unless you're not a conservative, in which case you're probably cool with this. This is the age of the moderate, which is frightening to me. I'd rather have people who have passion in their ideology and clash over it, than people be soft and squishy in the middle.

OMC: So, who's your man or woman, then?

JH: I don't have one.

OMC: If you can write someone in?

JH: I wish -- here's my wish list: if it's going to be Hillary Clinton on one side, I wish it would be Condoleezza Rice on the other. She has some issues with me, or I have some issues with some of her, she's rather moderate on a couple of issues, but that would have been a choice I could get behind. I could've gotten excited more so with Romney, although there are some things about ... well, out of all the candidates out there this year, I thought Romney would've been the best choice.

But honestly, along the generational lines, there's no Republican on the forefront of the stage right now that speaks to the younger generations. Maybe that guy out of Florida, but I haven't heard enough about him -- just starting to hear about him because McCain's starting to fish for a VP, but there's nobody on the right that excites me.

But there are candidates on the left, but they're of the wrong ideology. Harold Ford of Tennessee. I would like to see him run. There are, I forgot the gentleman's name ... there's a bunch of Gen-X candidates who are on the precipice. On the next cycle they'll jump in, and then it'll be real. For right now, there really isn't anybody out there.

Romney would've been a throwaway. I liked Fred Thompson -- I liked the idea. He had the right concept, starting out on the Internet and trying to reach people through alternative media, but he didn't have the passion, he didn't have the heart. No. I'm surprised.

I give John McCain credit because he's doin' it, but for right now, the most exciting person out there right now is Barack Obama, and I'm enjoying it even though I don't want him to win. I'm enjoying watching him generationally -- they're playing a game of Chess and he's beating Hillary. He's laying a road map for how candidates, right or left, are going to have to run in the future. And that's what I find exciting.

So, in order for me to get excited about this race, I have to pull out of it -- maybe it's a good thing I don't have a horse in this race, because now I can look at it through different eyes, instead of being about, you know, the ideological horse in the race because I don't have one.

OMC: That's interesting. Maybe it's time to go with the youngest candidate?

JH: Look, here's the reality. If John McCain, whose what, 70-71 when he gets in there, who's gonna have his ear? Seventy-year-olds. Old people. If you have Hillary get in, who's ear is she gonna have? She's gonna have the ear of the Baby Boomers and you know, feminists. If Barack gets in, one of the good things is that he's gonna have the ear of 40-year-olds, and I'm 40. We don't agree ideological-wise, but I will have a voice with him because we're of the same generation. This is generational politics, and even though the stars lined up differently this time, actually I think it is too early for an X-er to be in there, but the next go round, it will not be.

All of a sudden the younger generations are going to have an ear to the most powerful person in the world, where as right now, they do not.

OMC: You can only have two albums on your iPod, take a trip, what would they be and why?

JH: Two albums / downloads on an iPod. Well, let me play with this because it is a download. It's on my iPod. One of them would be a jazz download, and it would consist of Wynton Marsalis' first album, and his commercial for the iPod "Sparks." I love it. The song has hesitation, and "Sparks" is improv at its best, but it spans over 25 years, man, and it's uncanny to watch -- to see even in the "Sparks" song, how much he grew from when he cut this album at the age of 19, the original one. And in between "Sparks" and "Hesitation," would be a whole butt-load of Thelonious Monk, alright? Bam. That's one.

The second one would be, and the reason why is that the improv in jazz speaks to me -- being able to draw off of one another's energy and create speaks to me, that's why I would do that. Right now, the other album I would have is a compilation of Jack Johnson. Again, the creativity in his lyrics inspire me. He's a lefty. Earth-first, big save-the-planet lefty. But, he's very creative, and his outlook is very generational, but the way he combines his lyrics with his songs and his music -- simple. And with the complex words? I love it. So, it would be Jack Johnson, and it would be a compilation of Marsalis and Monk.

OMC: Any TV shows you're passionate about?

JH: I absolutely love "The Closer" and I love "30 Rock." I love "30 Rock" more than "The Closer." I'm a "30 Rock" freak. As a matter of fact, when the writers went on strike, it didn't dawn on me until I went to go download "30 Rock"... "Dude, Dude! Wait a minute!" So, I love "30 Rock," I'm looking forward to it coming back next month, and then I think they're going to bring back "The Closer" next year -- they shut it down altogether. But those are the two shows that I'm devoted to. And I don't watch them when they come on; I end up watching them online because I don't have time for all of that.

OMC: If you could have a drink or a cup of coffee with one person today, who would it be and why?

JH: If I had an opportunity to talk live over with anyone in the world over a cold Guinness, in a pub in Ireland, honestly, it would be the Apostle Paul, because his life fascinates me. He was on one track, and he got interrupted. Then he went hardcore on the other track until the day his life was taken from him. And the letters that he wrote and the people that he influenced are still with us two thousand years later.

And that wasn't his plan. He was writing out of his passion to these different people that he had met along the way, and the letters were saved, come on! And the things that he put up with. I really think that he would be the number one person.

I've read some biographies on him ... actually, I read a long one, actually, it was a book on tape, on his life, and this guy was fascinating, and I would like to have the opportunity over a cold Guinness. I don't know if he'd drink one, but I would. He'd be one of the persons that are on my "Must Speak To" list.

OMC: And the question I like to ask everyone is, what is your definition of success?

JH: The other day my daughter was looking at my blog, and she said "Daddy, you're on the Internet!" I said, "Yeah baby." She said, "You're also on the radio." I said "Yes, honey." She said, "You're on TV!" I said, "Yes I am." She said "Then why aren't we rich?" "Well we are rich." "No we're not! We're not rich." Hmm.

My definition of success is, I'm successful right now Jeff. I'm doin' what I love to do. I'm teasing my mother-in-law all the time; I want to be paid for all of my ideas. Not realizing that, here we are.

So, my definition of success is to have the opportunity to make a living in the things you're passionate about, because you're not really working. My mission in life is to motivate, inspire, and compel people to live to the highest and best use. And in the facets of my life, that's what I'm doing, that's the underlining thing here. I have fun trying to make people think. I have fun connecting the past to the present, to get people to think about the future. And I'm in a position right now where as a professional speaker, that's what I do all the time. I love doing it.

I love the fact that I'm being flown out to places -- nice places, exotic places to do that. And I also love that fact that on a weekly basis, and whenever I'm asked to fill in, I'm just as passionate about talking about those things as well. So, I think it's about having an opportunity to make a living at what you are hard-wired, what you are designed to do, and that's the definition of success.

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Posted by Mark727 on Nov. 8, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. (report)

Congratulations to James T. Harris... He is truly a Free man that adheres to "Solid Conservative" beliefs of Hope, Values, Rightousness and Principles...! He encompasses the very essence of what is right in the world without succumbing to the rest of the masses that base their opinions without logical reasoning or without a solid Spiritual Principles! The same Spiritual Principles that are the foundation of our "Constitution" and adheared to by "Great Leaders" of the past including a very famous Conservative... Martin Luther King Jr.! James T Harris is a man of "Integrity" and it takes "Guts" to stand for his Christian beliefs in these trying times and I Commend him in highest regards. The same regards as Bill Cosby... when he spoke to the local community about responsibility and accountability... he was chastised unmercifully by the media for being too harsh on the "irresponsible" men of that community. Well James just joined the ranks of a "Very Special" group of leaders... not "Lemmings"...! I believe Benjamin Franklin once said... "A man of Integrity expects to be believed... and when he isn't... he lets Time prove himself Right"...! James wasn't against Obama personally... but for what Obama see's as a solution to this nation both ethically and politically! How many times were you told by a teacher... You have a Good Child... but it's the other troublemakers he hangs out with...! I've been told all along... "You Are... who you associate with"...! You can conclude what that says about Obama... who's collaborated with terrorists, sided with fraudulent bankers and a phsychotic religious leader of 20 years! Congratulations James... "When you stick your head above the rest of the crowd... you're bound to get hit with a few tomato's"... And I'm willing to associate myself with Mr. James T. Harris! God Bless this nation... and I pray that God guides us through another Liberal administration with minimum collateral damage to the People it should be serving! Sincerely Mark727

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Posted by cantweallgetalong on Nov. 4, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (report)

Yes I am an Obama supporter! Yes I am an African American (very proud of this!) It seems to me that Mr. Harris has a problem with his family tree. I'm not voting for Obama because he is black (misconception by white America.) Im voting for him because he is different, intelligent, and aspiring. I'm voting for him because he has a vision of unity and equality for all as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. did. We need someone to unite this country domestically and abroad with the world. Also we need someone who will honestly try to reform the country's policies that hurt us all. McCain only want to help the rich. Well, 90 %( or more) of us are not rich and deserve a break also. Not once did I hear McCain mention how he would help us hard working middle class people. That trickle down method has not worked during the Bush administration. In fact, we're worst off now and things are getting worsted. I'm voting for a Change! Obama at least deserve a chance.

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Posted by truckerswife on Oct. 16, 2008 at 5:50 p.m. (report)

James - you are awesome to listen to. So honest and courageous to speak your mind. I agree with your views. I can catch you only when you fill in for Jeff Wagner. Do you have other fill in times or your own show? I listen during my short lunch time in my car and hate having to turn off the radio and go back. Keep it up James. You are a breath of fresh air.

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Posted by 1hopemills on Oct. 15, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (report)

discrimanation is discrimanation rather it be race, religion or age and this person just discrimanated against JOHN MCCAIN because of his age. he/she also said racism is alive and well in America in 2008 ,yes it is but it is pretty clear that the majority of racist remarks is comming from the balck community and I think Mr. Harris would agree.

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Posted by 1 nation on Oct. 15, 2008 at 7:53 p.m. (report)

Race is an issue in this years election cnn, an overwhelming amount of whites are voting for obama and an overwhelming amount of blacks are not voting for MCCAIN because of his color. Who has the problem here? And when a black man goes against the norm of the black community they treat him worse than any white person probably ever has. I'm sure he knows who the racist are in America. I applaud Mr Harris for being a true American!!!

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