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Ask OMC: Is Milwaukee getting a wine superstore?
Amanda in Wauwatosa asks, will Milwaukee ever be home to a gargantuan wine mega-mart?  
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Published March 25, 2009 at 2:26 p.m.
Tags: sam's wine and spirits, nathaniel bauer, dream dance

Here at OnMilwaukee.com, we pride ourselves in being Milwaukee experts. Since it is literally our job to eat, sleep and breathe all things Brew City, we get many questions from our readers.

This is where we answer them.

In the "Ask OMC" series, we take your questions, big or small, and track down the answers. Send your query to askomc@staff.onmilwaukee.com. Be sure to include your name and location, and we will consider it for our next installment.

Our question today comes from Amanda in Wauwatosa, who asks:

"Last week, I stopped in at Sam's Wine and Spirits in Chicago because I happened to be in the neighborhood. But there have been times I've made the trip to Clybourn and North in large part to shop at Sam's. Is there any chance Milwaukee will get a wine superstore store like this?"

Well, Amanda, we like to shop at Sam's once in a while, too, so your question intrigued us.

A few years ago, rumors swirled around town that a local restaurateur had plans to open a wine superstore in the Third Ward. That never happened and the rumored owner-to-be says it was never true, but adds, intriguingly...

"As for the wine superstore, we do have a concept that we have in development, but it's a lot different from Sam's, and we have other locations in mind. That's all I can say at this point."

At least one other person in town has worked toward opening a super-size wine store.

"About four years ago, I developed a business plan, got financial backing, wrote the $2 million starting inventory and was two shakes away from opening a 'Sam's caliber' store right on I-94 and Highway 83 in Delafield," says wine consultant and former Dream Dance sommelier Nathaniel Bauer.

"Only myself and a business partner were going to do it better -- real time online ordering and delivery, huge database, national distribution, etc. The concept would totally have worked, I just didn't think getting $4 million in the hole was conducive to spending any time with my wife and raising a family, so before we jumped on the location and committed to anything, I backed out."

Bauer believes -- unsurprisingly, perhaps -- that such a store could do well here.

"It would succeed if it was within a 20-minute drive of most everywhere, delivered, sold nationally as a distributor and created a significant reason for shopping," he says.

But would the arrival of such a place spell doom for smaller retailers in the area? Not necessarily, says Bauer.

"As long as a location was selected that would work, but wouldn't be right on top of an existing retailer, there should be enough to go around. The local 'one-two bottle and some beer' purchasers aren't going to stop going to their neighborhood wine shop unless the new big one is right across the street. As much as I don't wish anyone a failed business, there are a number of shops that have rotten selections and charge too much, which could use a little competition."

Bauer admits, however, that competition can kill a lesser competitor and offers a few examples.

"The market always gets affected when someone else, let alone bigger or better moves in. Look what happened at Milwaukee Public Market. Thief Wine does it WAY better and in no time Sheridans couldn't hang. Also, New World Wine Co. was never doing things right and they got pushed out as well by Metro Market and Pick 'n Save uping their game."

Sam's Wine and Spirits did not reply to numerous requests for comment. So whether or not they're considering a Milwaukee-area location remains a mystery. However, since there are no Wisconsin locations, it seems unlikely at the moment.

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Posted by RJ on Oct. 9, 2009 at 9:44 p.m. (report)

It looks like Sam's will not be opening a wine store in Wisconsin: I just read that Binny's is buying Sam's: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=35757&seenIt=1 Not sure what to make of this. I hope Binny's keep the Lincoln Park superstore strong.

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Posted by 2953UWM on March 30, 2009 at 9:09 p.m. (report)

If i'm going to buy a case of wine I usually go to Discount, but that does not occur regularly. Thief wine is an exceptional wine store with a unique selection of wine. The staff is friendly and extremely helpful. The owners go out of their way to even get to know your name and your particular tastes. Yeah, you can say that they don't have a superstore-like selection, but it is a strong selection of wine. Personally, I just want to go to a place where everyone knows your name. Cheers.

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Posted by RJ on March 28, 2009 at 10:41 p.m. (report)

I went back to Thief today for the first time since it opened--a really nice place with a really good selection in such small quarters. There seems to be a definite emphasis on California, South America, Spain, and southern France, though there's a little of everything else, too. The owners have a lot of energy and their passion for the business is clear; this is a real deal-maker for me. I'll definitely be back for more bottles, and I'll get friends to try out the food area with me. And I look forward to trying the bottle of Spanish macabeo that I bought today. I love certain expressions of the workhorse grapes such as Sauv Blanc, Chard, and Cab, but for me the real joy is finding wines from the "offbeat" grapes ("offbeat" for the U.S., at least). Nice job, and I'll be back!

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Posted by heatherkk on March 27, 2009 at 12:44 a.m. (report)

Sheridan's in the Public Market did not fold, nor was chased out by Thief. Thief was brought in to replace Sheridan's, whom had decided not to renew their lease. Sheridan's is re-opening soon in their new Third Ward home, re-named "Javino". Most regulars of the MPM know this.... New World just had a hideous overhead to deal with and nickel and dime purchases were never going to help them get in the black ink.

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Posted by haaz on March 26, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. (report)

Shop local, I say. We're fans of Dee's Wine Stop in Bay View. It's just up the road from us, which makes for a very pleasant walk on a warm summer day.

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