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    Council red lights Rouge Lounge
    Ald. Bob Bauman opposes opening a new lounge at 530 N. Water St.  
    By Doug Hissom RSS Feed
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    Published April 22, 2009 at 4:25 p.m.
    Tags: rouge lounge, ald. bob bauman, heide beste, leslie montemurro, scott johnson, annona, liquid johnny's, asian moon, ald. bob donovan

    A long-time club on Water Street that's been vacant for years will remain so, at least for the near future.

    The space at 530 N. Water St. has not been without its troubles in the past, featuring shootings, parking problems and other external and internal strife.

    Downtown Ald. Bob Bauman is concerned that would happen there again and opposed a plan by Heide Beste to reopen the joint as a club / lounge called Rouge Lounge.

    "The place has had in the least a troubled past," he said.

    Beste, 30, told the city Licenses Committee she wanted to open the place for fashion shows and music shows. She said she was looking for an investment and thought the place was a great location and that she could add something to the Downtown scene.

    The bar was formerly known as Lex and AJ's, among other names. Beste said she surveyed the neighbors and they liked what her plan was.

    But Bauman countered that that wasn't what he heard from neighbors and also questioned whether Beste could handle the job. She most recently was a cosmetologist and has been a bartender, cocktail waitress and cook before.

    "I can't support a cabaret license for someone that has no experience," he said. "A bar is not a beauty shop or a hair salon."

    But Beste said, "let's face it, business is business," and her other experience should be considered. "I've done my homework."

    Neighbor Donald Arenson, who lives and owns several buildings on the corner of Broadway and Michigan said the neighborhood can't take another club.

    Arenson regularly shows up to the committee with videotapes of street chaos, fights, shouting and other unruly behavior when clubs in the area close. Most recently, the club at 618 N. Water known as the Ladybug Club or L:ive 618, was a cause of commotion in the area.

    "It's a total nightmare Downtown in that area from the nightclubs," he said.

    So for now, the space remains a large vacancy on Water Street, between Clybourn and Michigan.

    In other committee actions:

    • Longtime owners of the Comet Café Scott Johnson and Leslie Montemurro were given approval to head south into Bay View and open a bar/restaurant on Kinnickinnic Ave. The pair owns six restaurants in the city, including Palomino in Bay View. The café was given approval to settle in the space former occupied by the Annona Bistro at 2643 S. Kinnickinnic Ave.
    • The venerable Liquid Johnny's, 540 S. 76th St., was given a 30-day suspension beginning May 8 after getting busted serving underage drinkers.
    • Asian Moon, 3419 W. Forest Home Ave., found itself back on the suspension list. The place was suspended last year, too, and after the committee heard testimony about from Ald. Bob Donovan that the place was attracting violence because it continued to play hip-hop music. Similar arguments were heard last year. Owner May Y. Xiong promised to stop playing hip-hop. The committee suspended the license for 15 days beginning May 12 if the Common Council approves.


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    Posted by careerdiner on April 27, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. (report)

    corrna252....young blacks are not the only people attracted to Hip-Hop music, and it is not just the music that attracts people to a venue....How about a good deal on food...a special cocktail or great atmosphere? Is it your belief that young blacks = trouble?

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    Posted by business1 on April 26, 2009 at 10:46 a.m. (report)

    I don't know you, but I totally agree. Actually I agree with almost every post on here. I live in the midst of this crap and can't wait to move from this area.

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    Posted by dave on April 24, 2009 at 6:26 a.m. (report)

    I have been to the Hub ... So am I undesirable? Are the people outside on the corner , waiting for the bus undesirable ? These are the people you are referring to , right ? The local residents... Maybe they should leave the area too.. how about closing Highbury ? Ever seen that place during World Cup soccer ? Not the most well behaved crowd. And they start in the early morning.. I think before the Hub even opens... So maybe you should set up your chair there and watch what comes out .

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    Posted by corrina252 on April 23, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. (report)

    Attention Liberal/socialist wackos: when a club is known to play hip hop it attracts young blacks and you inevitably have violence, fights, and weapons. The truth can be uncomfortable but that doesn't make it any less truthful.

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    Posted by corrina252 on April 23, 2009 at 9:25 p.m. (report)

    A scott and leslie establishment!!! Oh my god, how dare I! Let the poor guy sell beer if he wants. The entire south side is a dump and no amount of cafes or clubs will change that.

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