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Tags: alcoholism, binge drinking, johns hopkins

Every now and then, I like to go back and re-read old articles on OnMilwaukee.com, since many are just so timeless and as good as they were when originally published. Usually, I check out a section's "top clicks" list to point me in the right direction, and today I took another look at Molly Edler's 2008 article entitled, "Are you an alcoholic?"

I had forgotten what a good article this was, since we've all heard that question asked about so many people so many times, right?

I found this part, near the bottom, however, the most interesting:

The following test is used by Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore to decide if a person is an alcoholic.

1. Do you lose time from work due to drinking?
2. Does drinking make your home life unhappy?
3. Do you drink because you are shy with other people?
4. Does drinking affect your reputation?
5. Have you ever felt remorse after drinking?
6. Did you get in financial difficulties due to drinking?
7. Do you turn to lower companions in an inferior environment when drinking?
8. Does drinking make you careless of your family's welfare?
9. Has your ambition decreased since drinking?
10. Do you crave a drink at a definite time daily?
11. Do you want to drink the next morning?
12. Does drinking cause you to have difficulty sleeping?
13. Has your efficiency decreased since drinking?
14. Is drinking jeopardizing your job or business?
15. Do you drink to escape worries or troubles?
16. Do you drink alone?
17. Have you ever "blacked out" from drinking?
18. Has your physician ever treated you for drinking?
19. Do you drink to build up self-confidence?
20. Have you ever been in a treatment facility or hospitalized for drinking?

The administrators at Johns Hopkins say anyone who answers "yes" to three or more of these questions is an alcoholic.

Well, if this test is accurate, then I should notify the fine folks at Hopkins that pretty much everyone I know in Milwaukee under 50 (and some over 50) are alcoholics.

Granted, if people answer "yes" to enough of these questions, then yes, they certainly have a problem. But show me someone who hasn't come in late to work from a hangover, someone who hasn't shot off their mouth while blotto or someone who has made a crappy bar with annoying customers a little more palatable with a cocktail or three.

I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the question "Has your physician ever treated you for drinking?" shouldn't get the same weight as " Does drinking cause you to have difficulty sleeping?" Perhaps the author has never had a little too much red wine or skunky beer at barbeque or got cajoled into doing a shot of Jaeger at bar time.

I guess, in general, I'm just not a big fan of using self-help tests to diagnose a serious condition. Playing "20 questions" on a disease that requires more knowledge of context and back story seems a little too "high school" for my liking (and no, I'm not bitching because I answered yes to too many questions).

If I were to make a test about whether someone is or isn't an alcoholic, it suppose it would be just three questions, and answering all three with a "yes" only means that more analysis is necessary:

  1. Do you need to drink to have a good time? (It's OK to admit that some things are more fun while drinking.)
  2. Can you do activities sober that are normally associated with drinking? (It's OK to admit that "being able" to and enjoying them are two different things.)
  3. Is drinking messing up your life? (Only you and your loved ones can define "messing up.")

But what are your thoughts, Talkbackers? Are we just too tolerant of binge drinking here in Wisconsin? Or does everyone just need to order a martini and chillax?

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Posted by A_Barfly on July 24, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. (report)

Cool - I scored a perfect 100%...

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Posted by whynottry on May 12, 2009 at 12:58 p.m. (report)

I recall the first time I read this 'list' and I thought the exact same thing. I do see that some others don't agree....but I guess they have never hung out with my friends at a Brewer's Tailgate and if they did they probably wouldn't enjoy it. Their loss.

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Posted by sandstorm on May 12, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. (report)

"...resting in bed the next morning enjoying the memories sure beats a hangover." fool! that is a hangover!!!

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Posted by Dusty_Bottoms on May 12, 2009 at 9:36 a.m. (report)

#4. Does drinking affect your reputation? Yes, it makes me way more awesome.

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Posted by woodswalker on May 12, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. (report)

There are some of us that can honestly answer no to all of those questions. Because we refused to participate in the drinking game as teenagers we tolerated the criticism then as we did while in the military, on the job, and with some friends during our lifetime. Now we're 60, never had alchohol problems with our children, with our spouse, or even had the tendency to turn to alchohol during the rough times. There are so many more exhilarating things to do in life and resting in bed the next morning enjoying the memories sure beats a hangover.

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